Scripture referenced
The passage this message was preached from, in full, with every other passage it reached for.
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John 7:31 central verse about people believing in Jesus amid controversy
31 But of the multitude, many believed in him. They said, “When the Christ comes, he won’t do more signs than those which this man has done, will he?”
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John 3:16
quoted as the familiar gospel message poured out for two thousand years
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
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Habakkuk 3:3-6
read as prophecy about the manner of Jesus's return, including pestilence and plagues before him
3 God came from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and his praise filled the earth.
4 His splendor is like the sunrise. Rays shine from his hand, where his power is hidden.
5 Plague went before him, and pestilence followed his feet.
6 He stood, and shook the earth. He looked, and made the nations tremble. The ancient mountains were crumbled. The age-old hills collapsed. His ways are eternal.
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John 7:10
Jesus going up to the feast secretly, used to encourage those not seeing Jesus at work in their circumstances
10 But when his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly, but as it were in secret.
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John 7:12
grumbling and arguing surrounding the moment people believed
12 There was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others said, “Not so, but he leads the multitude astray.”
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John 7:13
people fearful to speak out about Jesus
13 Yet no one spoke openly of him for fear of the Jews.
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John 7:14
people were surprised by Jesus
14 But when it was now the middle of the feast, Jesus went up into the temple and taught.
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John 7:20
accusation that Jesus was demon possessed
20 The multitude answered, “You have a demon! Who seeks to kill you?”
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John 7:23
people were angry
23 If a boy receives circumcision on the Sabbath, that the law of Moses may not be broken, are you angry with me, because I made a man completely healthy on the Sabbath?
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John 7:24
Jesus's command to look beneath the surface and judge correctly
24 Don’t judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
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John 7:25-27
confusion about where Jesus came from and expectations about the Messiah
25 Therefore some of them of Jerusalem said, “Isn’t this he whom they seek to kill?
26 Behold, he speaks openly, and they say nothing to him. Can it be that the rulers indeed know that this is truly the Christ?
27 However we know where this man comes from, but when the Christ comes, no one will know where he comes from.”
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John 7:32
whispers and rumors surrounding those who believed
32 The Pharisees heard the multitude murmuring these things concerning him, and the chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers to arrest him.
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John 7:35
people were puzzled about Jesus
35 The Jews therefore said among themselves, “Where will this man go that we won’t find him? Will he go to the Dispersion among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks?
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Psalm 2
Jesus ruling from earth, making enemies his footstool and ruling nations with an iron rod
1 Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take counsel together, against Yahweh, and against his Anointed, saying,
3 “Let’s break their bonds apart, and cast their cords from us.”
4 He who sits in the heavens will laugh. The Lord will have them in derision.
5 Then he will speak to them in his anger, and terrify them in his wrath:
6 “Yet I have set my King on my holy hill of Zion.”
7 I will tell of the decree. Yahweh said to me, “You are my son. Today I have become your father.
8 Ask of me, and I will give the nations for your inheritance, the uttermost parts of the earth for your possession.
9 You shall break them with a rod of iron. You shall dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.”
10 Now therefore be wise, you kings. Be instructed, you judges of the earth.
11 Serve Yahweh with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Give sincere homage to the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish on the way, for his wrath will soon be kindled. Blessed are all those who take refuge in him.
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Romans 10:9
confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, cited during the salvation prayer
9 that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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Recap
The message in order, in a few minutes of reading.
Brian preached from John 7, with the central argument that most Christians know how to find verse 31, the moment when people believed in Jesus, but have never looked closely at everything surrounding it. The sermon pushed the congregation to ask whether the picture of Jesus they have carried since childhood is large enough to hold the full biblical portrait of who he is and what he will do. The title he gave the message was "Look Beneath the Surface."
What was said
Brian opened by pointing to verse 31 of John 7, where many in the crowd believed in Jesus, and said that verse is the one most Christians know. It is the verse preached from pulpits, quoted on signs at football games, and at the center of most podcasts about faith. He said that is real and valid, but that the Lord is pouring out new wine right now, and the question is whether anyone has a wineskin large enough to hold it.
He took the congregation to Habakkuk 3, verses 3 through 6, a passage describing the return of Jesus. He read it aloud, including the parts about pestilence marching before him and plagues following close behind, and noted that most people either skip those lines or quickly label them metaphorical. He said that move, the instinct to dismiss what does not fit a familiar picture of Jesus, is exactly what a too-small wineskin produces. He named the felt-board Sunday school version of Jesus and said that image simply cannot hold a Habakkuk 3:5 Jesus, even though that Jesus is in the same Bible.
He then walked back through John 7 and showed that verse 31 does not sit in a calm, tidy scene. Around it there is grumbling, arguing, accusations that Jesus is a fraud, fear, surprise, charges of demon possession, anger, and widespread confusion about where he came from. Brian said that is the actual context of the moment when people believed, and if Christians only have eyes to see verse 31 without seeing what surrounds it, they will be caught off guard, confused, and at risk of checking out when things get hard.
Brian connected this to the weeks ahead of the 2024 election. He said the country was about to go through what could be weeks or months of mayhem, and that the nation would need Christians who are steadfast and calm rather than swept up in the chaos. He drew a direct line between having a big enough picture of Jesus and being able to stay anchored when the surface-level events are loud and disorienting. He said Jesus is working in the midst of it, sometimes secretly, just as the passage notes he entered Jerusalem secretly.
A member of the congregation offered the analogy of someone at the gym who does the same routine every week and wonders why they are not progressing, compared to someone adding weight and grinding through real strain. Brian agreed and said the sermon was not meant to be comfortable. He said his responsibility before God was to challenge people to examine the wineskin they are currently using and ask honestly whether there is room in it for more of who Jesus actually is, including the dimensions of his nature and character that will be on display as history moves forward.
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Here is a guide we have prepared for you: the passages in order, questions for the group, and room to write.
- Brian talked about a 'felt board flanograph Jesus' and said many of us carry a picture of Jesus that is only large enough for a verse 31 kind of faith. Where did your picture of Jesus come from, and has it ever been challenged or stretched?
- Brian read from Habakkuk chapter three and pointed to descriptions of Jesus returning with pestilence marching before him and nations trembling, then said many people's instinct is to call that kind of language metaphorical and move on. Have you ever done that with a passage, and what do you think drives that response?
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Welcome to Tribe's podcast. Hey, we just wanna say thank you for making this message a part of your week. Our prayer is that these messages will inspire you to make the name of Jesus famous in your life and to the uttermost bounds of the earth. If you're ever in Jackson Hole, we'd love for you to visit our Tribe fam in person. To learn more about us, you can find us online or at Facebook by searching tribejh.com.
Welcome to Tribe's podcast. Hey, we just wanna say thank you for making this message a part of your week. Our prayer is that these messages will inspire you to make the name of Jesus famous in your life and to the uttermost bounds of the earth. If you're ever in Jackson Hole, we'd love for you to visit our tribe fam in person. To learn more about us, you can find us online or at Facebook by searching tribejh.com.
The Lord blessed the reading of his word this morning. If you're taking notes for our conversation today, you can write at the top of your notes, look beneath the surface. That's going to be the title and the theme of the conversation we're having today. Look beneath the surface. Okay.
So let me ask you. Who is the central figure in character in this particular passage that we've just written. Who is the spotlight on? Jesus. Yes.
Jesus. It's about Jesus is speaking. They're questioning Jesus. They're talking about Jesus. They're talking to Jesus.
Jesus is doing a lot of the talking as evidenced by all of the red letters right there in your Bible. Jesus is the central figure. And for most of us, the man, the ministry, and the mission of Jesus is really clear. We've been reading about it. We've been studying it.
We've been talking about it. As long as you've been following Jesus as the leader of your life, as long as you've been going to church, as long as you've been reading your Bible, yep, yep, yep, it's all about Jesus. And what we think about him mostly could be summed up and what we look for could be summed up in verse 31. Look look at verse 31 really quickly. Many among the crowds at the temple believed in him.
Verse 31. I've got it. It it's a note. It's a slide for you, Andy. Verse 31.
Is there not? Oh, so you were right and I was the one in front of you. Sorry, Andy. Verse 31. This is what we think of Jesus.
Jesus doing his thing, and then people responding and believing. This is what you hear preached from the pulpit. This is what you see when you read your Bible. These are all the podcasts that you listen to. This is the the thrust and the emphasis of Jesus' ministry.
Jesus preaches. Jesus shows up. People believe in him. They get saved. Everybody claps and then you go on your way.
And everybody, even like the guy at the football stadium holds up John three sixteen. For god so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son so that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. Great. We got it. That has been the wine that has been poured out for two thousand years and it's a it's a very good wine to drink from.
It's great. I believe, and I'm developing, I use that word intentionally, developing present ongoing. A new wineskin to hold what I believe is the lord pouring out new wine on the earth. And for anyone who would be willing to pay the price to purchase or construct a new wineskin, they will be able to receive the new wine that when they look at, for example, this passage, it's been in there all along. But we're going to highlight and examine the context in which people believed.
We have the people believe part. Yep. Got it. Great. But there's new wine that the Lord is pouring out that when you have bought, purchased, constructed, I don't know, a new wineskin, it will help you to be able to see what the lord is doing within the context of events that are unfolding in The United States and around the world and prepare you to be able to see with clarity verse 31 in the midst of all that surrounds it.
And if right now in this moment, you're like, what are you talking about? I'm setting it up so that we can then come back and go slowly and walk through it and unpack so that hopefully, you will see the reality in which verse 31 plays out. What I'm trying to say is we all know verse 31. We've all seen it. Many of us have experienced it.
Few of us have seen the context in which verse 31 plays out. And if we only have eyes to see verse 31 in the days ahead, We will be so caught off guard. We will be so confused, disillusioned that there will be a propensity in the human heart to among Christians to just be like it's too much. I'm checking out. And the Lord is saying it's been in here all along.
Well, what is it? Alright, let let's go. Let's go. Let's go. We think of Jesus being so clear cut and unambiguous but that's not always the case.
We have this nice flanograph felt board Jesus idea and oh, that is really outdated. That that little, how many of you remember like Sunday school felt board flanographs? Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. How many of you are like, you're. How many of you are old? Yeah. Oh, how many of you are old?
Okay. Yeah. Wise. Wise.
Wise. We're getting wiser. But look at, I wanna I want to to show you. Alright. Turn turn to Habakkuk.
If you don't know where the book of Habakkuk is, you can do one of three things. Just, like, click on Habakkuk. That's cheating. You can go to the gospel of Matthew, fairly easy to find, and then hang a left and go back that way. Or all of your Bibles have a table of contents, and you can just go to the front, find the book of Habakkuk, and then turn there.
Habakkuk chapter three. This has been in your Bibles all along. We love verse 31 Jesus. But the Lord is going to release and is preparing people for an expression and a dimension of the nature and character of Jesus that we have previously maybe not been exposed to, read about, or are even comfortable with, but it is part of who he is. Habakkuk chapter three verse three through six.
I see god moving across the deserts from Edom. Putting this verse into context. This is a prophecy about the manner, not just the return of Jesus, his second advent, but the manner in which he will return. Some of you, probably many of you in this room are like, Jesus is coming back like, well, yeah. Okay.
Like, I but you don't know much about it. It, there's a lot of talk about it in your Bible And if you do, if you are familiar with the return of Jesus, you might think of him as setting foot on the Mount Of Olives that he returns in the manner that he left because that's what the angel said of the book, first part of the book of Acts, and you're like, okay, he's gonna touch down the Mount Of Olives, and and then I don't even really know what but that's as kind of as far as your eschatology goes. This passage is about the return of Jesus. I see God moving across the deserts from Edom. The holy one coming from Mount Paran, which is another name for Mount Sinai.
In the same way that the Lord descended for Israel on Mount Sinai, there's a very good chance that that's how we'll see Jesus return. There's so many amazing parallels. His brilliant splendor fills the heavens, and the earth is filled with his praise. Got it. I'm tracking with you.
His coming is as brilliant as the sunrise. I'm tracking. Rays of light flash from his hands. Yep. Got it.
The nail scarred hands, where his awesome power is hidden. Amazing. I'm tracking with you. Pestilence marches before him. Plagues follow closely behind.
What? How this about Jesus? When he stops, the earth shakes. When he looks to the nations tremble and he shatters the everlasting mountains and levels the eternal hills, is the eternal one. Well, here's what most people do.
His coming is as brilliant as the sunrise, rays of light flash from his hands, whereas awesome powers hidden. Skip on a little bit right down to the end. He is the eternal one. The bible, it is on the look in your bible. Does it say any you know, translation will say something different.
But does it say anything different than what I've just read? Pestilence marches before him. Do you know what pestilence means? Pandemics. I don't like that, Jesus.
Plagues follow close behind. I don't like that. Then here's what you do. If you have an old, if you have a picture of Jesus, a wineskin of a picture of Jesus that cannot contain that, here's what you do. You you like, oh, the word is escaping me.
Dismiss. Not dismissive but you're like, oh, that's that me, that means something else. Help me out, everybody. We're doing this together. Jacob, it's what you think about the book of Revelation.
What? What? Metaphorical. There we go. See, we need to we need each other.
Oh, it's metaphorical. It's just imagery. You did, you dismiss it. The new wine being poured out but you have no container with which to hold the idea. That according to the Bible in many places, Psalms two, it says, that he will rule from planet Earth when he returns, making his enemies his footstool and he will rule the nations with an iron rod.
He will smash the nations like clay pots. The Bible says that one of two things, either one, it's bold and dramatic that either he have when he returns, he will have his robes blood stained or his robes will be red as if they had been stained in blood. The Bible says that a sharp two edged sword will come out of his mouth. Like, the the this is not the felt board flanograph Jesus that you grew up with and if you do not have the wineskin to contain the full image, the nature, and character, and expression of Jesus, the new wine that will be pulled out will be ruined on you. Far be it from me.
Who loves you and cares for you and will give an account. To the judge for how I led and where I've led you, that I would be held responsible for not ever inviting you, challenging you, provoking you, cajoling you to consider the current wineskin that you have and to ask, is there room for Jesus for a verse five Jesus? Yes, that's great that there's room in your heart for a verse 31 Jesus of John but is there a Habakkuk three five room in your heart for Jesus? And you're like, I don't know. Well, that's why we're going to look at John to help to help you.
I feel like my job today is kinda like Zach De La Rocha said, what do I got to what do I got to do to wake you up, to shake you up, to break your structure up? Let's look at some words that are surrounding the events that happened in verse 31. So So we're gonna go back through this. Verse three and four, and Jesus's brother said to him, leave here and go to Judea where your followers can see your miracles. You know that Jesus had half brothers.
Right? You can't become famous if you hide like this. If you can do such wonderful things, show yourself to the world. Even within Jesus's blended family, his brothers didn't believe him. Yeah, some.
James did. Look at verse 10. It talks about this idea Later, of Jesus shows up secretly. Oh, I feel a little sermon coming on. Here it goes.
You may be in the midst of circumstances where you had expected Jesus to show up in a profound, pronounced manner. And as of yet, you have not seen evidence of him working in your current situation. Take heart. Those of you who are going through trouble. He is in the midst of your circumstance and at this moment, he'll be he is working secretly.
Unknown to you. You may be looking for him in the midst of whatever it is that you're going through, not being able to see him. Take heart. He's working secretly. Nancy.
Oh, I like it.
Okay. So the beginning of this where he's telling them where they told him, you can't become famous if you're gonna hide like this. They had been with him all this time, and you would think they would know him. And they would know that fame was not his purpose or his goal. And I think it also can reflect back on us.
We think we know him, but do we know him? Are we allowing him to pour new wine into us?
I mean, what a, it's a great picture of of some of Jesus's brothers, stepbrothers, having an old wineskin of what they thought Jesus was like and he's like, I'm not even gonna waste pouring out the new wine of who I am on you because it can't be contained.
I think it's important also for us to realize all the way back in verse one and it said, after these things, what things? Well, basically, in the previous chapter, they had a what we've called today
a church
split. Jesus was going along and he had this large host of followers and when it gets tough, they're like, I got to split, man. I can't do this with you. I can't let you make me have a new wineskin. Yes.
Ready to press in more and see what may come. So, I'll just catch you on the way back through.
Yes.
Already, it was part of the plan because then Jesus comes right in. It doesn't affect him. He just immediately begins to pour into those who remain with him like nothing ever happened.
I love it. What are
gonna do? Are we gonna let people that split off from us, are we gonna let them affect us in our mind's skin growth? Or we just gonna say, see you?
That's great. Jesus is the only preacher to ever do a reverse altar call. Now with every head bowed and every eye closed while the music's floating softly on the wind, if you're going to reject my message, just stand up and move on out. It was a good altar call. Look at look at verse 10, Andy.
Secretly, he's working. Is that word up there? Look for it. Alright. Alright.
That's coming. That's coming. That's coming. Alright. Here we go.
So, let's go to verse 12. Surrounding Jesus's ministry and his actions surrounding verse 31 that we're all familiar with is this idea. Look in in verse 12. There's a lot of grumbling that's taking place around and in the atmosphere of verse 31. Look at also in verse 12, people were arguing right in the middle of verse 31, the the thing that we all think of.
There's grumbling, there's arguing. Look also at verse 12, people are accusing him of being a fraud.
Good job, Andy. Whoo hoo.
Some says that he is a deceiver. Most people lacked courage to speak out. Verse 13. Because they were fearful. Verse 14, people were surprised.
And then in verse 20, they accused him of being demon possessed. Verse 23, a lot of people were angry. Oh, and then you you might have I don't think this is the point that you were trying to make, Amanda, when you were reading, but verse 24 through, excuse me, verse twenty five and twenty seven. There's a lot of of confusion that's happening and here's what people were were saying about Jesus but how could this be for in verse 27? But how could this be?
For we know where this man can't comes from. When the Messiah comes, he will simply appear. No one will know where he comes from. Which is not true because there are prophecies in the Old Testament that says, look on you little Bethlehem for a great light has appeared. Remember when we were at the TMC and we did a great series on turn your cat around?
If this pets your fur the wrong way, what you need to do is turn your cat around. So, it can be petted the right way. These people right here in verse 27 couldn't turn their cat around. They they they they couldn't construct I will say this, they had not purchased a new wineskin with which to hold the new wine of the reality of who Jesus is. And if you can only hold a picture of Jesus that's only large enough for a verse 31 that that he teaches and he goes, here I am on the way, the truth, life, and people flock to him and believe in him and everything is great and and wonderful.
That is true and valid and real, but there's so much more to it. I'm trying to show you that in the midst of verse 31, look at all of these other things that are playing out and that are happening. Controversy. Confusion, bewilderment, conflicting ideas, people raising their voices. Verse 31, some believed in him.
There it is. Some believed in him. But verse 32, there were whispers and rumors. And in verse 35, they were puzzled. Like, I don't I don't know about this.
I'm trying to show you a portrait of Jesus in the context of the reality that we all live in. The reality that we all live in. Is in a world of competing views and ideas theologies and an insistence on forcing Jesus to only fit within the wineskin that we bought maybe when we were kids. In in the past. So, what it, what's the bottom line of what I'm trying to say?
You can write this down. We'll put it up on the screen. I feel like the Holy Spirit is trying to show us and tell us, do not be distracted by superficial events and opinions. But look beneath the surface to discover what god is up to. Do not be distracted by superficial events and opinions but look beneath the surface.
Is that not what Jesus said in verse 24? Look beneath the surface so that you can judge correctly. And when we take this verse and apply it whereas my Texan friends like to say, grab a hold of this verse and apply it to your life. You look beneath the surface. You will be able to discover what god is up to.
Instead of either being confused and disillusioned or not having a wineskin constructed that has the ability to expand, to receive the new wine of what Jesus is doing and will do on planet Earth in the days ahead. Jesus warns. He says that that as his return draws closer and closer that there will be a great falling away. Why? Why would people fall away?
Because of the new wine that will that is being poured out that cannot be contained by people that have an old wineskin. If what I'm saying is hard or confusing or maybe offending, it is only because I love you enough to to challenge you to disrupt your normal pattern of of in historical and traditional pattern. Of the wineskin that you thought Jesus has fit into. So that when he does begin to do more and when he reveals more of his nature and character and attributes in events that will unfold on planet Earth in the days ahead, you'll be able to say, okay. This is tough.
Looks like you're working secretly or the Habakkuk like, man, this like the wheels are falling off. Where's Jesus? Do you have a wineskin bought that can stretch and talk to me. Somebody talk to me. Sounds like she wanted to talk to me.
Well, Rachel and I've been discussing it.
Or he wanted to talk to me.
Please forgive me if I haven't paid attention and gotten this or I'm ignorant or whatever. We are the white skinned, right?
Ah, okay. Good question. How about how about yes and? Yes and. Your feel your heart, your theological matrix and construct?
Can it hold the idea? Can you accept? Can you believe? Can you worship attributes of Jesus and actions of Jesus that are contrary to what you think how Jesus should act and and behave. So, so the wineskin is the totality very similar to the hat rack, hanging your hat on god's truth which is a series that we've also done recently about the totality of your beliefs of the nature and character and the mission of Jesus.
Is there room for you to see what will unfold in the days ahead? And be able to still worship Jesus. The Bible says in the Book of Revelation that that as the tribulation unfolds on planet Earth with the church here living in endurance and with with great joy in the midst of persecution and opposition. Is there is there when the world is saying, hide us from the wrath of the lamb. Will you be one that has fallen away?
Will you be hiding, saying, hide us from the wrath of the lamb? It's too much. I can't take it. Or like the Bible says, describes another group of saints that are filling the bowls with the prayers of the, like, incense of the saints that our prayers go up to heaven. Lord, your will come, your will be done.
Like it says in the book of the end of the book of Revelation, the spirit and the bride in unity and harmony both are together saying, come. Come lord Jesus. Is there room in your heart for what you will see of Jesus? Maybe what he is trying to do in your heart and life today, right now.
Okay. This is a connection. Okay. And the picture I saw as we've been discussing is a picture of me in the gym. So go to the gym four days a week.
I do the same workout. Right? I ride bike. I do legs one day, set of abs one day, and then arms the next and then the other set of abs that day. K.
I do that every day. Now there's a guy at my gym who is progressively getting ripped. And I see him, like, grunting and pulling and he's straining, and he's causing pain to himself in order to get there. I get a little bit of pain but not much and so I'm not progressing really. I'm just I'm not so spiritually.
I'm doing all the things. I'm praying. I'm reading the word. I'm going to to church. I'm worshiping whatever.
But am I in pain? And I saw Todd White was in Walmart just walking up to people and saying, hey, you know Jesus loves you? Can I pray for you? And laying hands on people and they're being healed and that's that was god's challenge to me this week. Like, are you going to the grocery store and just going out to random people and and being led to random people to
pray for them.
Right? That's my upping my weight, upping my reps. That's where I'm at. And so I feel like, yeah, sure, you're not a man. We're, you know, we're we're not, like, getting stuff from you, but you are essentially our trainer in this analogy.
Like, do something more. We're living in a dark age, and we need to do something more. And we need to stop hiding and speak without fear of retaliation. And that and that's my that's my challenge. Maybe somebody else's challenge is, hey, get up thirty minutes earlier and give him the word.
That's great.
There's new wine to be had. There's more we can have. There's more fire. There's more power. There's more that we can have, and the world needs us to get there.
How
does a good strength coach reward success? What did you say? Cake. Cake. That is not a good strength coach.
A good strength coach rewards success with what? More weight. More weight. That's great that you can get under the bar and squat verse 31. Good job.
Great. Fantastic. There's more, there's there's more weight to add to the bar. Wineskins and weight. Okay.
Holy Spirit, help us. All of our metaphors and analogies. Help us, Lord. Help us. Jesus, you said that most people will not receive the new wine because they, you said this, Jesus.
They literally will say, the old wine tastes good enough. Oh, far be it from our tribe family that we would become sedentary, stale, dull, unable to receive the new wine of what you're doing on planet Earth today. Examine us examine our hearts stretch us, stretch us, lord. You talk to him and allow him to speak to you.
With nothing but all you have given me because Jesus bring new wine out of lame.
Andy, would you do me a favor and put up that bottom line slide one more time? Don't be distracted. Our nation's about to go to the polls on Tuesday. If you haven't already voted, record numbers of people have voted early in this election. Millions and millions and millions of people have voted early in this election unlike any federal election in years past.
Why? It's almost as if collectively, as a nation, we can see something being tipped about to be poured out. Right? And would you go back one side, Andy, with all of those like words thrown up there? I mean, could this not be a a picture of what's gonna play out between now and January?
I'm just thinking of this. But in the midst of that Jesus is at work. That's right. Will you get caught up in what could be a lot of days or weeks or maybe even months of mayhem? We get caught up in that?
Or will you not be distracted and be able to look beneath the surface? I'm telling you, this nation is on Tuesday. Starting on Tuesday, is going to need millions of Christians who are steadfast. Yes. Who are confident in the nature, in character, in ministry, and mission of Jesus.
Because the the nation and the world as spectators are going to get caught up in all of this stuff. Don't be one of them. You have believed Be steadfast Be calm. Be confident. And if you're like, I I think maybe I fit into one of those words and there's no blue words in my life.
Well, you need to get saved. You need to believe in the message, in the ministry, in the person of Jesus Christ. And that happens when you acknowledge that you've been living life on your own either in rebellion to god or in trying to please god on your own but you can't do it. And right now, you are wearing yourself the crown of thorns, the curse. You're operating on the curse as Sarah talked about a moment ago.
Jesus has paid the price for your sin. And if you would believe in your heart and confess with your lifestyle that I'm gonna surrender my life and I'm gonna invite Jesus to be the leader of my life and Jesus, I'm asking for you the blue words of your life to just stamp out and write over all of these other words of confusion and chaos and hurt and pain and and and rebellion. He'll do it. He'll do it and then you will be one of the ones. We calm, full of peace, looking for the world in the midst of what I would anticipate as going to be a very bumpy ride for these next couple of weeks or months.
And with that said, Amanda, please come share offering announcements with us. That was the best segway I could give you. Hello,
friends. So, as we finish up our time here together today, we always take a moment and we call it at Tribe Here, another act of worship. We've worshiped the lord today through singing songs to him, through our conversation, through the reading of his word, through the preaching, and one more way corporately together while we're at church, we want to bring our tithe and our offering to him because we say, in doing so, Jesus, I love and I trust you enough to bring a portion of my finances to you and if tribe is not your home church, don't worry about it. Give if you want but this is an act of worship. And so as we do that today, I just wanna remind you, make today's sight hello.
Sermon title, thank you, was look beneath the surface. And Renee that was so beautiful the analogy that you gave with the weights and maybe bringing your tithe and your offering is a way that you put on more weight or a way that you look beneath the surface maybe it's a challenge for you to give to a church because a church is filled with humans and humans are messy and hard and not always the greatest. So, I can tell you being on the leadership team here at Tribe, we do our best to steward well what is given. That's our human natural part but maybe you've been burned by the church or you you know, pastor just want a a bigger house, a faster car so they take up a special tithe and offering. These things happen.
Never? Brian's never done that. Don't worry. But maybe some extras. But that's poor stewardship.
And so humans are just messy. So here's the thing when we bring our tithe and our offering to the Lord. Your job is to be obedient to him and then you just wash your hands of it. I promise at tribe, we do our best to steward it well. But even if we didn't, you be obedient and then you you're done.
That's between you and the lord. So, as we bring our tithe and our offering today, I'm going to pray but just ask the lord, what are you asking me to do today? What are you asking me to do in this act of worship to you that maybe you feel like you can give, maybe you feel like you can't. Honestly, it doesn't matter about your feelings in that regard. It's your obedience to the lord and what are you wanting me to do?
Are you wanting to challenge me today? Are you wanting to push me? Are you wanting to put extra weight? But this keeps us calibrated, reading his word, bringing our our tithe and offering, worshiping, surrendering to him. These things help us look beneath the surface like we talked about today.
So, we can be calibrated with the Holy Spirit and what he's up to and just hanging on to that truth. So, as we go through turbulent times, either globally or personally, at every level, we are connected with the Holy Spirit. We know what he's up to. So, let's pray together. Before I do practical ways to give, we don't pass buckets here at Tribe but we do if you the easiest way you can see on your screen, the way to give is by sending a text to 84321 and you just type the amount you want to give.
It's like tech easiest texting a friend. And then we also on the website tribej.com. There's a giving tab and then as you leave through the swinging saloon doors today there's a little box with our logo on it if you have cash or check you can give that way too so let's bow our heads and just pray together as a tribe family heavenly father you're so gracious you're so faithful you're so good and you don't change. That part, you do not change in that way. We can count on you.
You are the capital T truth and we say thank you for being that way. Lord, as we be obedient to you, the best we know how. First of all, thank you for meeting us where we're at. Thank you that you can handle our questions and our doubts and our unbelief. You can handle that but lord, thank you that you meet us today where we're at in all areas but particularly bringing our tithe and our offering to you thank you that as we give it is an act of obedience and an act of worship where we say god you are worthy it's all yours anyway and we thank you for the opportunity to partner with you in what you're doing and how you're moving in the local church and beyond to as we say the uttermost bounds of the earth so lord I pray that every single penny given will go to do exactly what you want it to do to do the work of the ministry to be your hands and feet here on this earth and to love on people the way that they need so they can be drawn to you and surrender their hearts to you we thank you for that opportunity and that privilege in Jesus name we all say Amen.
Amen. Just a few quick things and we'll get out of here. First of all, we are gonna meet here right here in this space for the whole month of November. So, I know sometimes it's not available and we tell you or we'll go to the TMC but all month long, we're going to meet here 10:00 right here and the second thing is today at 05:00 we're going to be meeting on Town Square this is something we do once a month where we meet together with our Jewish brothers and sisters here in Jackson and we go it's not a it's not a rally it's not a picketing thing you know we're going in support of our Jewish brothers and sisters and they have said time and time again like why why are you here why do you love us and it's because we serve a Jewish Messiah and we just want to show them our love and we also want to think about the 101 hostages who were taken by Hamas October 7 that still have not been, recovered and we just pray for them and we pray for their families and we pray for Jackson so come at 05:00 on the town square today if that's something you're able to do and then finally we will have there's going to be a worship night and not here but at Gateway Church this Wednesday at thirty.
Tribe will be there. First B will be there, and Gateway will all kind of combine our worshipness, and it's all for the our worshipness. It's all for the Lord anyway, but we're gonna have, yeah, like an all church worship. So, come to Gateway this Wednesday, 06:30. If that's something you're able to do, that's the church in Rafter J.
Thank you. Brian, will you pray us out? Yes. Or do whatever you
Thank you, Amanda. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. And happy birthday to you too. Just before you leave, couple things are gonna happen.
Number one, I'm gonna invite the Millers and the Irwins to stand in the back there. If there's anything that you need prayer for when we dismiss here, they would love to rally around you and pray for you. So, if there's anything going on, big or small, whatever it is, healing in your body, breakthrough in your marriage, new job of like place to live, whatever it is. It don't matter. They would love to pray for you and they'll be back there by that tribe kids sign.
Number one. Number two, Lisa was like, do it and I was like, yes, Holy Spirit. Not that you are the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit often speaks through your spouse. All the married men in the room said.
Amen.
So, yes, I'd what the lord was putting this on my heart. If you have not invited Jesus into your heart but while I was talking about this, you felt your heart racing and you're like, I need to do that. Either for the very first time invite Jesus into your heart or if you had done that but it's been so long that you're like, I don't know. I might as well be like a ball lost in tall weeds, and you need to rededicate your life to the Lord. People believed in Jesus's message where in what we just read.
It wasn't like, well, I'll do that in the stillness of my bedroom. It wasn't like, well, I'll I'll do that as soon as I get out of church. It wasn't like, well, I'll I'll do it. I'll I'll do it later. It was right in the midst of Jerusalem, right in the midst of all of these people.
And right now, you are in a room of people that have all that many have done that exact same thing, made a public profession of faith and invite Jesus into their heart and so just before we leave, without making a big deal about it, if there's anybody in here that needs to make a public profession of faith by inviting Jesus into their heart and or rededicate their life to the lord without all of us bowing our heads and closing our eyes but just right here in this bar, would you just stand to your feet? If you're like, that's me and I need to give my life to Jesus. Just stand up where you are. Hey, that's awesome. That's awesome.
That's some bravery right there. Stay. That's some bravery. James, right? Yeah.
Well done, young man. You're just the first. Anyone else?
Hi.
That's crazy. That's awesome. Thank you, lord. Stay standing. Lord, just doing something transformative in your heart as you stand.
New life is happening. Old chains are falling off. Somebody is thinking, I will, I will, I will, but I've got more questions or I need to figure it out or but but but but leave your butts in your seat. Stand here and and and and stand to your feet and surrender to the invitation of the Holy Spirit saying, I've got answers for you but I'm waiting for you to make this step of obedience. Would there be anybody else?
Just curious. I love to see all the saints in the room praying. As my pastor used to say, you're, if you're lost and you know it, if you are without Christ and you know it. That what would be keeping you in that seat is death and what is causing your heart right now to beat out of your chest is the wooing and the invitation of the Holy Spirit. Life.
And it is life that would be pulling you to your feet to respond to the message of the gospel. Just curious. Anyone else? Yes. Praise the lord.
Praise the lord. That's amazing. Let's let's do this. Let's do this. Stay standing.
If they if you're right near them, just put a hand on them and then the Bible says that if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, it's not just you standing. It is not just words that come out of your mouth but there is a transformative thing that happens when you're honest with him and I understand that you might not have to be able to put into articulate words what's going on. So, here's what I'll do. I'll help you out. I'll coach you in a prayer and I'm going to say some words as a prayer and I invite you to repeat after me and by way of support, why don't we all say these words?
Right? And so, what you say is this, lord Jesus. Lord Jesus. I come to you today. I come to you today.
With a problem. With a problem. That problem is. The crown of thorns that I wear. I am under the curse of sin and death.
I need help. I need help. Jesus. Jesus. Save me.
Save me. Forgive me of my sin.
Forgive me of my sin.
Give me a brand new life. Remove my crown of thorns. Now, you take just a moment and in your own words, you just talk to him and tell him. Just loud enough for, you know, your own ears to hear him and if you wanna tell him thank you, if you wanna tell him that you love him, If you want to tell him that you're sorry, whatever it is, whatever it is, you just talk to him for just a moment. Thank you, Jesus.
Thank you, Jesus. Now, say these words. King Jesus. King Jesus. Thank you.
Thank you. For forgiving my sin. For forgiving my sin. And making me a new creation. Making me a new creation.
In the best way that I know how.
In the best way that I know how.
I commit my whole life. I I commit commit my my whole whole life. Life. To following you. To following you.
You, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. I love you, Jesus. I love you, Jesus. Me, Jesus.
Help me, Jesus.
We pray these things in Jesus name and all god's people said. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you.
What an amazing. Thank you for supporting them. Now, let's all stand up.
What a great day.
What amaze, what an amazing day for us all to be together in the house of the lord in a bar. Would that be alright if I prayed for you just before we leave? Lord Jesus, thank you. Thank you for every person here. Thank you for every family here.
Thank you that Jesus in the in right in the midst of the swirl and controversy and all of the things that are going on, the chaos in our life and the chaos that could very soon surround this nation. We thank you that in the midst of that, there you are. Solid, steadfast, unchanging. Lord, give us new wineskins so that we can receive the new wine of what you're doing so that we can look beneath the service, surface for clarity in who you are and what you're doing in our in our hearts and in this country around us. I command a blessing over each and every person that is here today for service.
Lord, thank you in Jesus name. In Jesus name. Amen. Amen. I love you.
Have a great week. Lord, help us to fill our freezers full of meat. And remember, you got this.
